The spear in the vault is not Gae Bolg, and Gilgamesh apparently has both Gungnir (Odin's lance) and Brionac (Lugh's) - or the original of them. INSERT SOUND OF MY HEAD SLAMMING AGAINST THE WALL That spear is the source of Gae Bolg and would be its prototype as well it's weaker than Gae Bolg too. Ephyon 13:11, 1 December 2006 (UTC) Reply Actually, it's probably wrong that Gae Bolg was seen in Gate of Babylon it was probably either Gungir or Brionac, most likely Gungir. Terek 02:42, 27 November 2006 (UTC) Reply Wait, Gáe Bolg? I knew the proto-form was in the vault (Whatever it's name was), but how can Gil have the same version of an NP as another hero? And, more importantly, when has he ever been seen with it? Ephyon 07:38, 30 November 2006 (UTC) Reply Nevermind. At the bottom of each Servant page, I'll be adding a little segment that denotes external links so people can find the original material we got our sources from, since (apparently) using a fansite as a source is incorrect. However, I would like to ask everyone available to include any extra weapons found in Gilgamesh's vault, as well as accompanying pictures like in the case of Archer's biography, so that we can create a sense of 'wholeness' to the artcie. There are currently disputes over the role of citations for media-related material for FSN, so in the past we've been limited in what we can credibly put up here. I can understand Gilgamesh owning the original Caladbolg, even if it wasn't shown in the game. So, it makes sense for the original Caladbolg to be a bulkier form of Caladbolg II. Shiirn 11:56, 3 November 2006 (UTC) Reply Actually, I figured it was the original Caladbolg, because EMIYA/Archer's Caladbolg II was a modifed form of Caladbolg, made more aerodynamic (since he used it with Hrunting a lot). It was never used and the game and Gilgamesh should have never had it. Anyone know if it's supposed to be a copy of the same one, and if so whether it crops up in the game - 81.174.244.104 23:05, 2 July 2006 (UTC) Reply The sword is Caladbolg II, and is one of Archer's few 'Home-made' Noble Phantasms. This looks like the same sword that Archer summons and shoots from his bow at Berzerker. In the anime, during Gilgamesh's fight with Lancer, the last weapon Gilgamesh pulls from the gate is a spiral-shaped sword. Terek 00:06, (UTC) Reply Gilgamesh defeated Saber? This is a designation necessary merely for simplicity. If putting it under a 'special technique' category is the only option, I would recommend moving Enkidu back under Noble Phantasms and noting that, like UBW and Tsubame Gaeshi, it isn't a *true* Noble Phantasm but is treated like one. I was implying that Enkidu be removed entirely, as it isn't exactly relevant and only clogs up the neatness of the articles more if mentioned in another category (which is why I am trying to push against adding multiple subsections). Ephyon 21:22, (UTC) Reply Well, that's not really what I meant. I'll move it under a Special Technique category once I get back. I think so too, but it's more comparable with Mystic Eyes and Tsubame Gaeshi, since it's not just a normal weapon like the Nail. I know I was the one who put up Enkidu as a Noble Phantasm, but there's no real reason to suggest it is one aside from 'binding the Gods', it's not listed as a Noble Phantasm in any material I have read, but is simply a weapon not unlike Rider's Nail and Berserker's Axe-Club Sword.

Nezu Chiza ( talk) 17:16, 5 September 2008 (UTC) Reply Enkidu It's a helpful tool to prevent pictures from being removed without warning. Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.83.146.151 ( talk) 03:17, 5 September 2008 (UTC) Reply Just a 'for your information', there's no jerk that's whining about the pictures, it's a bot program that checks pictures for the fair use rationale and, when not finding any, flags it on the talk page so people can add it. Oh yeah by the way some jerks are whining about the pictures used in his bio, might want to fill their fair use rationale or whatever so the wiki snobs stop whining and then get rid of the warnings. I know they are not portrayed in the games, however, would it be possible for people to help dig out whether or not those two weapons have any actual backing in either the Epic of Gilgamesh or in other Babylon-era myths? I figure those two are obviously Noble Phantasms and not mere weapons simply because of this. Hey hommies, here's my question! In the anime, Gilgamesh is seen using a knife with apparently ice/wind magical powers and a scythe whose blade teleports to its target.

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